Sent back to Kimber (HORRIBLE customer service, btw), came back with the same problem. I not had any issue with my Kimber Stainless II. At first glance, it may seem somewhat odd to read a story comparing a 1911 with a CZ 75. It appears to have a very good build from the factory and other than the trigger I don't see any quick changes. I like the loaded better than the RO, just dislike the adjustable sights on the 1911. No problems, love the look and a good price...highly recommend. Being able to shoot accurately and comfortably before wasting expensive .45 ammo learning to shoot is definitely a plus. As much as this one is a contest between types of gun, it might just be a contradiction between types of shooter. So a competition shooter isn't needed, but reliability is priority number 1. Back in the late 1800’s – and I mean really late, as in 1899 – the United States was involved in a battle with the Moros. A guy at work is looking for a 1911 and wants to buy my Kimber TLE II. I have an earlier Kimber that doesn't have the new fangled safety. FTF all the damn time well past the break in period. Single letter (dont remember if M or N) is Brazil. Pass on the Remington unless you get a great deal. Dollar for dollar kimber hands down. Kimber no question about it. I love the look, feel, and most of all, reliability that I've gotten out of my guns. I have two Kimber .45s and I have never had a FTF or FTL with either model, with hundreds of rounds downrange. Sig's Officer frames have a 3.3-inch barrel; the Kimber Ultra pistols have a 3-inch barrel. I just joined the 1911 forum because I am going to buy a 1911 and wanted some help on which one to get. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! My local Dealer gets $610.00 for a Kimber Custom Classic and a little more for a Springfield Loaded, btw, my Springfield was the Loaded model. Springfield Armory has taken the opposite approach. Just my cents worth. Calibers: 9mm Luger . When it came time to purchase my own 1911, I went with the Springfield Loaded. Of course the springfield feels much nicer in the hand. It comes with night sights and other upgrades that you would probably want to make on a mil-spec anyway. in semi auto the 1911 is the best and of all the 1911's the Kimber rocks right out of the box. 1911 EMP. Take my story with a grain of salt, as my purchase was back in 2008 but I bought a Kimber Custom II and it was rife with problems. I had to have the plunger tube repaired at about 500 rounds on the S.A. VS. Springfield . They were great. My Springfield (loaded) needed to have sharp edges rounded for carry and the rear sight locked down. I recently picked up a Scprpion for myself and consider it to be a potential prize. I'd like to hear your opinion. When I went through this drill I ended up with the Kimber but would not have cried if I had selected the Springfield. Colts.........Did I Mention I Love Colts? Springfield 100%. Just keep her clean and oiled up. Got it because it comes with ambi safety, and I am a lefty. The Springfield was nothing but a headache from a loose plunger tube, a mag release that left me with a loose mag when inserted that you could push about an eighth of an inch and a barrel link that didn't allow a good lockup and a finish that about as durable as latex paint on steel. He then bought a S&W 9mm Shield. The LGS has a Springfield TRP and Kimber TLE II new in stock. This will be the first firearm I own. I wasn't impressed. Also I've seen mil-specs with pretty loose fits before and every loaded I've come across has been very tight. Springfield has the ILS, but that is relatively inoffensive, and can easily be replaced. My kimber had to have the slide catch replaced out of the box. I give the nod to the Kimber. From my personal experience, Springfield had less failures and was simply more reliable than the Kimber Custom II and the Kimber TLE II that I had tried. Regards, Richard. I think you'll do fine with offerings from either manufacturer, but my next will be a Kimber Ultra CDP for carry. I can get a really good deal on both a new Kimber and a new Springfield. I'm considering selling it and buying a Springfield range officer or loaded. It is .45 Black Stainless that has adjustable night sights. Unless I could find a pre-series II Kimber, I would go with a Springfield, or look for a clean, used Colt. I looked at Kimbers and Springfields as well as several other weapons when I went looking. I am either going to get the Springfield Mil-Spec or the Kimber Custom II. Got it back and it's way more reliable but I STILL get an occasional FTF, including when I went for CCW qualification. Built on a foundation of tradition, Springfield Armory’s cutting-edge 1911 family stands ready to deliver. Hello and welcome. Edit: By more reliable, I mean that in two Kimbers I had about 3-5 failures to feed per 200 rounds. Can't knock their customer service. My vote goes for the Springfield. It came down to which one I was most impressed with and that was the Kimber. EDIT: Also in that price range the Ruger SR1911 is worth looking at. Featuring forged major components, a Springfield Armory 1911 is built for a lifetime of service. Springfield MilSpec SS 1911 A-1 vs Kimber Stainless TLE II I am new again to this 1911.org forum after a long leave of absence. It came with magazines I hadn’t seen before, their lips flared toward the front instead of tapered. I just cannot get over the external extractor Kimber Shooting Community is a great place to start. As the other posters said these are both very good weapons. I was looking at their higher end guns and the fit and finish on the kimber was much better in my opinion. I have a stainless S.A. thats had a thousand rounds thru it without a hitch. Around 750+ rounds fired. Love it. Added a Kimber mainspring with mag well and couldn't be happier. It shoots great, has an incredible trigger and I've had nary a hitch with it that couldn't be related to oversized reloads. I have been shooting since I have been young. I like the TPR and know the rep that Springfield has. Just over 100 rounds (brand new). Solid construction. Springfield Vs Colt Vs Kimber 1911 And Wilson Colt 1911 Parts is best in online store. My 1911 gunsmith told me to buy a mil spec 1911 $550-650 and for about another $1000 it would keep up with my caspian. If you do have problems with your pistol and have to send it in, they pay for all the shipping too. Also, have you looked into the Springfield Range Officer or Loaded models? I would go with the Mil-spec and after you ran about 500 rounds through it (you may have to have the extractor tuned) take the savings and add the things you feel you need, which for me is only grips. Swapping out the mainspring housing will give you an excuse to upgrade to a Smith & Alexander mag guide. A man with a watch knows what time it is; a man with two watches isn't so sure. It seems that you either get a lemon or you get the greatest gun, from what I've read on many forums. After that no problems what so ever and I have ran some shit bulk ammo thru it. Older Kimbers were great but since they started tinkering with the design things don't always run correctly. I just now got to the 500 round mark and it's been great. Given the choice between the Springfield MilSpec and the Kimber Custom, I would choose the Kimber. What is the difference between the loaded and mil-spec? Sig 1911 pistols employ an external extractor, Kimber pistols use the traditional internal extractor. Just my opinion. NO I have friends who own both, They favor the KIMBER. 1911 vs Glock. It was done quickly and very well. EDIT - Forgot to answer the question, Springfield all day! IMHO I wouldnt buy a 1911 .45 as your first firearm. I personally dislike the look of the loaded (the flair at the end of the slide). I second that... but I need to mention that replacing the magazines on the springfield is contributes to this reliability. Many Sigs are available in MA but not all colors and models. If I had to choose between the two......I would choose a Colt! A-O's is actually the closer clone, because the Springfield uses non-authentic grip panels, and has the lock in the mainspring housing. That being said I did have a few problems with the Kimber out of the box. The Second Amendment is Homeland Security. I like the fact that it's the same gun LAPD SWAT it using. I had the Springfield trigger worked on around 10 years ago (to match the Kimber) and had night sights put on it this spring. Of my 4 1911 10mm variants, two are DW, one is a Ruger and one is a 1990 Colt Delta Gold Cup. My Sig Sauer 2022, btw, has never had a single problem for hundreds of rounds now. I would only ever buy a Series I Kimber (i.e., used) if I had to make the choice again with the knowledge I now have. I have a Kimber CDP Pro II. My son talked me out of it and his house was broken in and it was stolen. Instead of taking a basic 1911 and dressing it up, they have taken a competition 1911 and dressed it down. I would advise you to buy a 9mm to start and work your way up to the .45. I am near 2,500 rounds through my Springfield and haven't had a single issue yet regardless of the fact that I shoot cheap ammo. The people at the factory are always friendly and are just a phone call away to answer any question you have no matter how simple or complicated. All of my Colts were also excellent, accurate, dependable, and well finished. My question is how would the folks in this Kimber forum compare functionality, reliability and overall performance between the SA Armory stainless MilSpec 1911 A-1 to the Kimber Custom TLE II (LG) in SS? All of my Kimbers shot well and I never had a problem with any of them and they were accurate and well finished. 45 ACP . safety and they have been using it for quite some time now. Loaded owner here. Shooters with more experience than I had learned that GI spec magazines designed for 230-grain round-nose Full Metal Jacket weren’t … Now, I do not like the Schwartz safety that Kimber has incorporated in their current production line, nor do I think it is needed. Based on my experience, I inform those who are interested to stay away from Kimber. But I just wanted to know everyone's thoughts on which of these two guns to get. I have owned four Kimbers and owned seven Colt 1911s. SPringfield Loaded series all the way. I had a couple FTF with a few hollow points I was trying out within the first 200rds or so. EDIT: Spelling. From ultra-compact EMP pistols to longslide 10mm TRPs, there is a 1911 available for practically any application. This is just my personal experence after carrying a springfield 1911 for 6 yrs in the marines. I am looking at the Kimber Stainless TLE II and the Springfield Mil-Spec in stainless. I just replaced my Lightweight Champion Loaded with the 45ACP. Springfield also makes such a pistol, but it's the GI, not the Mil-Spec. Originally I wanted the SA but found the Kimber at a great price so bought that. Or, is getting a 1911 for a first handgun just da dumb idea. Anyway, serial number starting with NM is US made. I've already decided. John Browning’s 1911 By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I have a Kimber Warrior with 500 rounds through it. The Auto-Ordnance 1911 is a close copy of the WW2 M1911A1. The frame and slide are forged in Brazil, and then (according to their website) they are assembled one at a time in Geneseo, Illinois. I got mine thru "pro staff" deal where I work. Thats 2-3 failures to completely chamber the round in nearly 12k rounds through the gun. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. Very easy process. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Differences Between Sig 1911 vs Kimber 1911 Pistols Let’s go over some minor differences. I own Kimber, SIG & S&W and commonly work on Colt and Springfield in the 1911 platform. Mine is parkerized black (the photo is currently floating of the first page of r/1911). Mostly .22 and trap. Colt's also been reliable , but the Kimber past 15 yds shoots tighter groups . NRA-USAF (SAC) Vietnam era Vet, Kimber Custom Defender II-Girsan 1911.45 (Hard Chrome)Franchi I-12 Diamond Semi-Auto engraved Shotgun, Mauser 8 MM Sport rifle, High Standard .22 Revolver,.22 Rifle, 20 Gage Shotgun, Phoenix HP.22 Pistol, Ruger SR22 Pistol. The sights on the Springfield will have to be replaced with a tri-dot similar to what is on the Kimber. Sig 1911 pistols employ an external extractor, Kimber pistols use the traditional internal extractor. PLUS it's made in AMERICA... Everybody keeps talking about Kimber's "new fangled" safety. Compare the dimensions and specs of Kimber 1911 Pro and Springfield 1911 EMP. I shot my friend's and it is very nice. I've been happy with the Kimber… I have a Remington R1 Enhanced, and I love it, but rarely shoot it and when I do, its only a couple hundred rounds at a time. you're swapping a trim compact rather concealable pistol for a freaking boat anchor! New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. 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