Making this a THREE way test would have been really interesting. Could it be the best .357 isn’t a revolver? (not so much the ex!!!!). I did own a Trooper at one time, but traded for the 686 8″. I own a Python, a 686, a 586, a GP 100 and a Taurus Model 66. The cylinder release is much easier on the S/W. But the best Smiths ended with the demise of forged hammers and triggers — the MIM parts don’t hold up as well. Dan Wesson is the latest to come back on line with the .357s. It’ll have all the handwork that any Python has, equal fitting and finishing including a spectacular bright blue, and a better (and non-stacking) trigger pull than any Python. Capacity: 6 Rounds The smiths at Colt had a lot of man hours in the finish work on their double-action revolvers. That’s beyond a Hog Leg. The single action is equal to any Smith & Wesson. Also the Colts do tend to wear out of time faster but that is because they lock the cylinder tighter at the time of ignition. Next post: Review: Gemtech GM-9 Suppressor, Previous post: GunsAmerica Giveaway Gun: 1911A1 from Auto-Ordnance. The 686 can try, but it will never make it. Then you got to shoot them. The lock up is not so strong. Carried my 4″ Colt Python on duty for 8 years. And I can shoot it really well in the single-action mode. Once an inherently simpler and more trouble-free mechanism got the benefit of the post war design upgrades and better metallurgy, the war between the two revolver giants was over, even though it took decades to finally play out. I will be getting one for sure. As is, they’re visually distinct. The Python is back. I’m exactly the opposite with the Colt. No gun other So how would I make a direct comparison when it boiled down to accuracy? I’ve not modified the trigger at all. ... Smith & Wesson Model 686 Revolver, .357 Mag. Question What do the experts think of the Dan Wesson model 357 magnum and the Ruger security six and the Gp100 I think? Love my S&W PC 357 8 shot revolver. None of them can come close to comparison to my !970 made Python. If it takes more than 4 weeks, call me back with the tracking number and I\’ll either expedite it or send you a new gun back to the dealer for pickup.\” I was hesitant but agreed – after all, he did take my call this time. Maybe. S&W (and other manufactures) have proven with today’s advanced technology these types of revolvers can be produced at an affordable price. Thank you for your knowledge and looking forward to read more of your work. ), 8:56 Colt Trooper M4Colt LE6920-R AR15 -Unboxing and initial thoughts HD, Single Stack 9mm: Glock G43 vs. Smith & Wesson Shield, Pros and cons: M-LOK and KEYMOD vs PICATINNY Mil-Std-1913 RAIL. Back in Oct. 1990, a few law enforcement officers I went to the academy with purchased personal firearms. Colt’s bluing is like a masterpiece, and the lockup is like a bank vault, but that’s about the only difference between it and my 686-3. The Security Six could match my partner’s 686 for accuracy, but not the Python. made guns. If you want a revolver that you can shoot endlessly without worrying about what’s happening to your investment, test drive a 686. I had the whole thing coated by WMD. The first two were 6″ guns, the Trooper was a 4″. A more logical discussion would be why does Colt simply refuse to bring back their classic Snake revolvers? The single action is super crisp 3.5 pounds. The double is a long steady and smooth 10 pound pull. The 586 would have been a better comparison for the Python. I’d still prefer my GLOCK for that. The quality is just not what it used to be on 686-4 and earlier models. The S&W wheel guns are considered to be the industry standard now. If I had to pick between my old Smith and my old Python, it would have been the Python. Soooo smooth, and actually smoother than any smith, but even back in the 1980’s, 90’s when I was acquiring my guns the Pythons were always out of reach compared to the Smith. Have an Anaconda and a few Python. Related Tags: I just don’t think I could have done any better. It is a total non issue. The balance provided by their long, fully lugged barrels makes them easy to hold on target. And find a convenient way to hold those extras while they aren’t needed. The ergonomics of the cylinder release on the Smith is far superior to the Colt. Sadly Colt is now only an iconic Brand owned and operated by people that do not deserve the loyality that so many people have for this brand. That might be my preference, but Colt timing allows for a double lock-up on the cylinder resulting in no cylinder play, adding to accuracy. The 686 is stainless. Now, maybe this is just one way, but other men shot my S&W and Daves Colt with same results. I purchased a factory tuned Colt Python new in about 1982/83. S+W, no thanks! I wouldn’t want a late Python for what they bring today. These guns were among the last of an era. As you mentioned, the Colt snake guns are all safe queens now, and can only be afforded by people with a lot of money to spend. The gun essentially sold itself and Colt cut a few corners on quality. The thing shoots .357’s like they are 38’s and .38’s like they are .22’s I met Bob Morrison, then CEO of Taurus and a real live gun man if ever there was one, at the gun store where I was making the purchase, told him what I\’d heard and read, and asked what he thought of it. I have owned revolvers made by Taurus, Llama, Colt, H & R and S & W and, to me, Smith and Wesson is simply the best. Buy it. The 686 is dead on accurate, even in double action. Smith & Wesson used a protected system for this part. It’s much like a scaled-­down variation of the Python, and better than the coil spring arrangement found on vintage King Cobras. I have also competed in PPC shoots with modified S & W’s and did very well. Sold mine after changing careers, sad mistake. Most Python’s that I handled always had a trigger pull and actions that were like silky grease. The fit and finish of the 686 is good but it’s not a Colt. For me, the butt shape of a Smith always fit my hand better than a Colt and especially a Ruger and that was the difference for my favoring the Smith. GI#: 101567827. Both revolvers and semi autos. It was made in 1961, the first year of 4″ manufacture. Overall, the Model 686-2 is a great revolver. I will only be buying one Nighthawk Korth. Daves Python cost him $650+ with 2 boxes good ammo, a Dasantis pancake and a few odds and ends. It is next to impossible to find a well taken care of OEM .357 that is the same effortless, buttery experience on the range. I can still envision a scenario that requires me to clear leather and put a shot or two on target fast, and I do that better with the with the single-action mode of the S&W than I do with the Python. Yore right he was off. Graphic Content: Hoof rot and Coyotes kill an elk and we check it out. Carried a Smith throughout my law enforcement time. With the Smiths single leaf main spring and the trigger return spring block about the lightest you can “tune” a Smith & Wesson will give you about a six pound double action. Weight Empty: 43.9 oz, Model: Python So the question is this: if the expense of producing the Colt Python was too much, how is Smith pulling it off with the 686? If you have any issues, call me.\” So I did. Would have been a better comparison. Model: 686 Plus The L frame was a relative late comer in the revolver lineup meant to address the weakness of the K frame to repeated 357 use ( remember the 357s pressure was lowered in the late 90s per S&W petition because of this issue). So, I sold mine. I also had a 4″ nickel Python, but never shot it. The only problem I had with Smith service revolvers was the rear target sight, it was to easy damaged and hard to pick up under combat conditions. Finish: Satin Stainless Even when Colt produced the python as a catalog item, even when there were people who knew how to work a walk, the Smith & Wesson led the way. So in the end, for me, when I hiking or hunting it it usually a Smith at my side, but when I go to the range it’ll be a Colt. However, work guns are work guns. The Colt revolver is dead as a doornail as anything other than a neat collector’s item, with the single exception of the historic Single Action Army, and that’s only holding on by the skin of its teeth. My Wife always puts me to shame with her Colt Trooper! Bottom line is shoot the piece that YOU like the best. The Smith and Wesson is a gun that begs to be used. So there–a winner. By far, the most accurate handgun that I ever fired was a Ruger Security-6 with a 5 inch barrel. While I don’t have anywhere near the same time behind the trigger on the Python, I’ve shot it enough to know that I’m better with it in the double-action mode. I would go with a Ruger GP 100 or SP 101 any day over the Smith and Wesson. My first handgun was a Taurus 66 in blued steel, 4\” barrel, 7 shot configuration. That being said I’ll give my view as a smith that works on both Colts and Smiths and I’ll agree with some of the points that the writer made. Let me start off by saying I own all of the following revolver brands & models (Colt Python, S&W 686-3, 686-4, 686-6+, 686-7, and Ruger GP-100). Although heavy, my Python can shoot inside of an inch at 25 yards. There are smaller manufacturers that pull it off, too–though their prices reflect the smaller number of guns they produce. I’ve been looking for a 686 for several years and NO ONE has one for sale! Smith & Wesson produces a wide variety of .357s, and some are less expensive than the 686. As far as the Python and the other snakes, I never did like snakes and still don’t, especially when they cost you an arm and a leg so to speak. Due to our backlog we have limited to gun model selection to the most popular models that make up more than 90% of our sales. Action: Single/Double Action Quality/fit/finish not what it once was @ S+W. The Smith has a black rubber grip that keeps the backstrap covered. Own 3 Pythons, 2.5bbl, 4 & 6 bbl…. I own Colts and many S/W’s. We have a sweet little Detective Special and a King Cobra and the only real reason we haven’t let them go is that we do not use them in a crisis-reload scenario. After less than 1,000 rounds, the guy’s Python lost time and the gunsmith showed us the center hole on the cylinder had become oval shaped. I have both the re-issued 586 (blued version) and Python (vintage 1978): both in the 4″ barrel version. Then I went to Glocks. The actual content of their steel is typically fine, but no steel will work properly without proper heat treating, just as no part can function properly, when it’s too big, too small, or the wrong shape. Two classic beauties–the Colt Python (top) and the Smith 686. What’s the least expensive .357 on GunsAmerica? Only a 44mag or 500 receives higher command. Smith&Wesson was smarter in many ways than Colt, especially in the area of contracts, where you sell multiple guns, (witness the mdl. I love my 6″ python, bought it new in 2003, but she is now a safe queen, I also have 2 686 S&W’s, one I bought new and the other I found used for a great price, I love both guns, this article is dead on, I like the way the python shoots, it is the nicest firearm I own, but the 686 smiths are also excellent choices, the trigger on the python is much smother than the smiths, I have read that all the python elites were colt custom shop guns, this could be why, does anyone have info I could use to verify that. Maybe for the same reasons that Chevy doesn’t redo a’57. Barrel Length: 6″ / 15.2 cm Shooting the Smith in single action? I’ve carried this gun for three years or more. I have a hard time believing that the Python will be "worth" the extra $500 -- I get the feeling they are just banking on the name and the popularity from TWD. However, you are quite correct when you state that Colt has had more than its share of quality control issues over the years. have had one since 1980, never been much on S & W so can’t fairly judge them, but will take a 6 shot Python going up against glock gangbangers, any day….! It isn’t a revolver. The only S&W .357 I had was a 2-1/2″, 66–great trigger and amazingly easy to keep a tight group at 10 yards–for one wheel in .357! It was a State Trooper’s Colt, 357 and I noticed how the double action was less “stagey.” I was told how colt revolver’s double action seems to smooth out compared to a Smith. I owned both new 6′ Python bought in 1982 ($400) and a 4″ King Cobra 1992 bright stainless (traded a used Taurus 9mm ~$400). It is a testament to how well these pistols were put together. Sure hated to part with it. Both guns function flawlessly. Even the Alaskan 2.5″ .454. I can’t imagine a world where the gun isn’t in production, and where a solid working gun becomes a collector’s item. I appreciate the article and one just has to admit the old saying holds true! This article takes me back. It goes with me when I’m out on the farm, or in the woods, or hunting… I even carry it when I’m at the range. Had occasion to try Colts. Which means production costs are much cheaper for S&W. Have owned seven 686 is that I can remember. They are still around in near mint condition, but will set you back well over $2000. Most of us can’t afford a 686, at least not on a whim. ( That value reduction by shooting is what made me sell it BTW) I totally agree! Sure there is crossover, I new a few guys that carried Pythons back in the day but it was not common, why subject such a beautiful weapon to the riggers of law enforcement. Not one mention in the article or comments on a decent and affordable S&W 686 proxy gun – the Taurus 66. The machines that produced them were run by humans, and not by computers. Smith and wesson 586, and 686 models were better. If you always regret missing out on the opportunity to buy a Colt Python this is the Revolver for you. For me, it would all come down to how I shoot a revolver. Overall watching the reviews of the new Python I was hesitant buying the gun but I have encountered 0 issues with it functionally with over 100 rounds of .357 magnums, .38 special, and dry firing with snap caps. You didn’t know which gun was made by which company. Currently negotiating to buy a 6in stainless Python for $2000.. Stay tuned. I have one coming soon thru a dealer in Idaho , and I would like to know your opinion about it Interesting comparison. The 686 was Smiths last evolution of the service revolvers, made a bit beefier then the 66. Not sure the 2020 Python is worth the money except it says "Colt" on it and has the distinctive vents atop the barrel. For the money and reliability don't overlook either used or new S&W 686 or 586. The best Colt revolver was a Colt Trooper III. Adding to the confusion, the very Python-like clockwork hinted of things to come, although the folks from Colt would only say the action was scaleable. In short, the 686 is a workhorse (if you’ll pardon the equine metaphor we’d typically reserve for Colt’s marketing strategies). The 4″ barreled 10-shot S&W 617 is a fabulous .22 RF revolver, that needs only one major improvement. These changes have resulted in less accurate, more breakable guns — not what anyone wants to see. Both fine but you never see a colt in any kind of double action competition. Dont let that ridiculous noise keep you from buying this gun that once you put it in hand and feel the weight and experience its top notch trigger you will be completely satisified. Excellent condition, light finish wear. If one were blindfolded holding a 686 equipped with similar Pachmayr presentation grips, it would be difficult to tell them apart. Most people just don’t see the beauty of a well made revolver like they once did. Not sure that would be the case for the SW, but I’ve never owned or fired one. Let’s look at this comparison from a different angle. There’s nothing compact about these brutes. If you find a Python you can afford. Are you gone do one day a review on the Manurhin 73 made by Chapuis in France ? The Python is a work of art, both in design and finish. C’mon, Smith & Wesson — dump the chickensh-t MIM parts and two piece barrels, and start making them the right way again. But lost by 25 points 220. As far as the guns go both are awesome. Smith and Wesson 586 (blued 686) and 2020 Colt Python. And owning Ruger’s, I love the GP 100 to pieces. If Kimber, S&W, Ruger, and Taurus can make a DA .357 revolver, but Colt easily can, but simply will not – now that is embarrassing and pathetic. I own Pythons. Got and love my S&W 586-6″ (Blued), after my S&W 29, (Dirty Harry’s). Now days I don’t even consider buying a S&W that does NOT have a pinned barrel. It’s identical to the 686 but it’s a blued, carbon steel gun. It start shooting back at me within 20 rounds! I’ve got a short list of guns I’d like to see brought back to the market. I carried various Colt Detective Specials or variations for years working as a detective in N. Y. City. I also admit my Old S&W revolvers shoot very like the Pythons, but not the newer S&W’s. Bobs Ruger, same extras $350, and I shelled out about $50-75 more. I have semi auto’s as well and they have their place and are quite accurate,but, I really enjoy a wheel gun, plus it’s a lot easier for this old man to retrieve spent cartridges compared to having to bend over to pick up spent auto rounds. They tell me I should leave it in the safe and let it appreciate in value. Read the Python Review–https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/best-revolver-ever-made-colts-python-review/, A .357 Shoot off with a semi-auto twist?–https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/357-shoot-off-coonan-vs-python/, The 686 Review–https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/smith-686/, Why do this to a S&W?–https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/coating-a-stainless-revolver-wmds-686/. If made as they were it would be like the current SAA where the wait is a year or two and people are paying top dollar at auction for a limited production gun. I never owned a python but have a king cobra, 686-1, 686-7 talo, and my old colt trooper Stainless Steel. I think, inherently, S & W lockwork is faster than the Colt. Material: Carbon Steel Exceptional accuracy, and looks great. I own Colt’s, Smith & Wesson’s and Ruger’s. As a Police Officer and as a Detective I have also carried Model 19’s in 2 1/2 and 4 inch models and had great success with them. 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